Tag Request: "Writing" & "Worldbuilding"

Dielan

Tree let's lay this out before I change anything

Are you suggesting:

Remove TTRPG secondary tag (to free the icon)
Demote the current Tabletop sub-primary tags to secondary tags
Limit primary tags back to 1

Or did you have something more specific in mind?

Tree

Sounds good. Before we proceed, can you clarify if nesting is a function of only Primary Tags?
If it's available for Secondary Tags too, I think we can instead resolve everything by demoting as you said earlier:

converting all Topic Tags (Vidya, Tabletop, Off Topic, Politics and Cringe) to Secondary Tags
I think if multiple Primary Tags are introducing these issues, there's not much reason to keep any Topic tags as Primary Tags as their indexing is indistinguishable from Secondary Tags, and the restriction from the bugs defeats the purpose of multi-tagging.

Dielan

Tree yeah secondary tags don't have any nesting

Here's a one liner from the admin page:

Tags are used to categorize discussions. Primary tags are like traditional forum categories: they can be arranged in a two-level hierarchy. Secondary tags do not have hierarchy or order, and are useful for micro-categorization.

Thinking of old forum structure, I think Off Topic makes sense as a top level category, but we could maybe merge Vidya and Tabletop into something like GAMING or something generic and introduce more secondary tags. Take a look at some examples of flarum forums to see where I'm coming from:

the official flarum forum - https://discuss.flarum.org/tags
a few samples from the flarum website showcase:
https://www.devnl.nl/tags
https://www.tendigitgrid.com/tags
https://community.sunrise.ch/tags
https://community.giffgaff.com/

We could also delete Politics and Cringe, and re-create it later if the forum really takes off. It's only purpose is to be a forum space that is not viewable to people not logged in. Similar to how our cringe channel on discord requires you to react for the role

Tree

A little bit of clarification: nested primary tags are actually considered as Secondary Tags:

they count toward the secondary tag cap and not toward the primary tag cap

This also means the hidden post bug is triggered by multiple nested tags, and not multiple primaries tags. A post by HelsEch earlier this year with both Vidya + Tabletop confirms this.

We're probably not gonna be able to get Dev Support on this so we'll just have to work around it.

Dielan

Let's sit on this for a day or two and see if the flarum community can explain this

I've posted https://discuss.flarum.org/d/33728-discussions-with-multiple-nested-primary-tags-do-not-display-in-main-view for the issue - but my post is waiting approval so you can't see it yet. But this is the link once they get to it.

Dielan

I didnt get a reply CacoCry

So I'll implement the change next weekend to flatten this out a bit. I'll also merge vidya and tabletop into one top level tag and same with off topic and cringe. Adding new secondary tags to keep it tidy.

We can reintroduce top level tags as we get more post volume

Tree

Dielan

Yeah I think there's just some bug with the nested tags. Thanks for creating the thread tho.

Dielan

Hold up @Tree

Was about to do all the things (including merge Cringe and Off Topic, which is done now) and noticed this:

Going to test again. The other two subtags under tabletop did NOT have that checkbox checked.

Dielan

Ok i have confirmed @Tree there isn't a bug, it's just this one tag, of the three, had that 'Hide From All Discussions' checkbox checked which was acting like a poison pill when you do multitag

So, now we actually can use second level tags together where it makes sense, so i'd like to leave tabletop and it's subtags alone for now.

Tree

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Tree

@Dielan

Can we add another subtag to the Tabletop Primary Tag:

System
Worldbuilding -> World (namechange)
- Think renaming this subtag would put it more in-line with the other subtags
Characters
Campaign (new subtag)
- For Campaign Notes and ongoing Campaigns

Dielan

Tree great ideas. Implemented now

Give it a try!

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