Podcast Ideas MEGATHREAD

Dielan

I like the car example when I think about PC games and games with thriving mod communities cuz cars have that too, but I like the book example for complete single player games, or specifically complete games you don't need to modify.

We could argue romhacks and fan projects are like fanfiction but we don't need to go there CacoLaugh

HelsEch

SkoomaDealer
Maybe I need to look at it again, but I thought it read that the issue in question was not the ability for a library to have consoles and games in their collection, but the ability for a school/library to make copies of a game for the same use.

HelsEch

Like, no one's stopping people from putting up a console and letting people play from it. That's what arcade boxes have been since the dawn of commercial video games.

The issue is when organizations want to make copies of a game so it can be maintained and used by more people. The goal of going before the committee was to get a DMCA exception that would allow organizations to make those copies for research purposes. Companies argued that the groups coming together hadn't provided a suitable method to ensure those copies were going to be used legally and the government agreed.

HelsEch

So this isn't a matter of donating a car to a library so someone could drive it. This is a matter of letting libraries make those exact same cars.

SkoomaDealer

HelsEch it’s about letting libraries make exact replicas of cars no longer being made, for the express purpose of research and scholarly study. No one is arguing for crafting a 2024 BMW. But there would be something to being allowed to build a Model T for study.

They do expressly state physical and digital, which would be like loaning a console that’s no longer on the market, in my eyes, or emulation or anything in between. So absolutely, there would be the potential for misuse, but it’s not like they’re talking about emulating current market products.

As far as legal use of the copies, it’s hard to argue their use would be illegal honestly, since the product is no longer on the market. Shit, it’d be handy free market research for companies to know what games have the most downloads from the library.

HelsEch

SkoomaDealer

Sadly, we're in a nostalgia boom. The Switch is an emulator for several old consoles, some of which aren't even Nintendo's. Games are getting rereleased, remade, and rebooted constantly and there is a real concern for a company that this could affect that market.

And to what standard specifically are we going to tell companies to give up their ability to put their IPs and previous products onto this old games market? Like, it would be wonderful if we could arrange some system for that for the sake of games preservation, but it's really contentious territory with how valuable those rights are.

I speak from a lot of personal experience on that. I play two different private servers for mmos that shut down over a decade ago. Only one of them operates in a way that is entirely legal and they certainly couldn't start out that way. There's a lot of issues currently in the way of preserving games and not all of them are there unreasonably.

Dielan

Speaking of dragonage looks like one of the youtubers who got a review code had some embargo'd footage leak

https://x.com/G27Status/status/1851090671731364292

I'm not sure what the chief complaint is. On the surface it seems to be related to an anon account that says they're friends with the guy while having an offensive username, but the stuff that was leaked seems to be of no consequence? Maybe I don't know enough about dragonage to spot a spoiler from an out of context screenshot IDK

Dude who posted:

The guy mentioned in his wall of text that he didn't know the guy doing the leak and this is more likely an associate of one of his editors.

Dielan

RIP bozo

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/29/24282900/sony-shutting-down-concord-firewalk-studios

SkoomaDealer

Dielan looks like the weird belief Concord might resurface has been firmly squashed.

Dielan

Appears Bioware is not giving out review codes to creators who might be critical of the game.

https://x.com/WolfheartFPS/status/1849861834330996789

Like they want the best prelaunch perception possible. Probably to get a critical mass of day one sales, expecting critics to drive people away. What are they hiding?

Dielan

HelsEch Nintendo Switch emulators suck too. The PC ones are way better

However, playing Gameboy Tetris on my Switch on my work commute is pretty amazing.

(I know I could have simply taken my steam deck instead, it stays at home)

SkoomaDealer

HelsEch that’s also sidestepping the actual argument being made. It’s specifically about preserving out of market (no way to purchase from 1st or 3rd party sellers) software and video games. Rarely do companies rerelease games in those prior states, even collections usually make some changes. I didn’t follow the entirety of it, but I don’t think they’re asking for mmo servers to still function past sunset.

Idk to what extent things would really plague the market, but it certainly wouldn’t inhibit the properties from having remasters or remakes or anything.

It also speaks to the quality of major releases if people want to play older games more than new releases, but that’s not what’s being talked about right now.

HelsEch

Dielan They do, but the fact that the market for them exists creates an issue for these preservation efforts.

Dielan

I'd prefer to see some kind of IP regulation that clearly defines what abandonware is and let's us fuck with it

HelsEch

Dielan See, I'm totally down with actually just kicking copyright laws down a peg.

I get why they're useful, but the Mouse went too far in its law battle, and we've been dealing with an IP inflation dampening creativity in the entertainment market since

SkoomaDealer

Not a good look for BioWare.

https://youtu.be/LDRVdfzHXDI?si=qXNsAiqsehy1Znhw

Victim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDDuO2vSkzQ

Asmon reacting to Hero hei reacting to Fex, but he's echoing my thoughts here. Also, Rare Fextra W.

Dielan

Victim I feel like I said exactly something like this when I gave my Metaphor first impressions. Racism, intolerance, oppression, all of that is present in Metaphor but it is well written and natural.

Seeing the disclaimer on the left hand side for your dialogue choices in dragon age helps me understand what SkillUp was saying when he said the writing "felt like HR was in the room" if anything this reminds me of those annual online HR courses us corpos have to do every year, where each answer is explained just like that why it's right or wrong when you click on them in the training webpage. What an embarrassment

Dielan

We should probably make a new thread just detailing the dragon age shenanigans going on. By the time our show returns in January it will probably blow over

Dielan

Dielan and it is done

There's enough to say about JUST dragon age, so send those thoughts here --> https://melonmancy.cafe/d/94-dragon-age-veilguard-the-grifter-olympics

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